Author: Campbell

New Zealand IPv6 Task Force Meeting
13 February 2012

Present (in person): Murray Milner (Chair), Donald Clark, Richard Wood 
Present (via audio): David Stone, Oliver Bell, Dean Pemberton, Simon Riley, Richard Wade.
Apologies: Frank March, Clive Levido, Grant Symons, Keith Davidson, Campbell Gardiner, Robert White, Andy Memmott.
Meeting start: 2:05pm
Review of agenda: As is
Minutes of last meeting: the previous minutes were accepted as a true and accurate record. 
Matters arising from Action List or Minutes of last meeting
High priority to get in direct contact with content organisations related to World IPv6 Launch Activity. Do we invite the major content players to a lunch meeting?
Convenor's report:
World IPv6 Launch planned for 6^th of June. A number of organisations committed to do it. What shall we do with content providers in New Zealand? We need to ensure appropriate activity with respect to local providers. How do we use this event this time around? Let’s not assume they are aware of it. It’s a fantastic milestone. Just Google and Facebook switching it on will ensure much more coverage than we could generate.
Task force has been careful to keep a focus on the budget. The IPv6 event has been helpful. Need to think about how we are going to operate the Task Force into the next financial year. Given the World IPv6 Activity it wouldn’t be sensible to close down before that, nor before the CIO Summit or NetHui 2012, taking us to end of July. Beyond that we would need to look for other money, and would need to put aside money to keep the surveys going for a year or two and the benchmarking. These could live longer than the Task Force.
Need to step up communications. Practical IPv6 for Government is of interest to media. We could do an IPv6 special issue in Computerworld. It may well work with the World IPv6 Launch. 
Website has had the information about the event and there is also the benchmarking project. Government initiative in benchmarking needs to carry on for a couple of years, providing a longitudinal view. 
Events currently planned include the Government event and potential for other events for May/June timetable. Have considered having a breakfast event in first week in June. A business equivalent for IPv6 for Government has looked too difficult. Also looking at the CIO summit and NetHui. 
A couple of date changes in IPv6 Task Force meeting calendar – see Convenor report.
AP. Find out level of interest in Computerworld for a special issue on IPv6.

Benchmarking Overview
The IPv6 TechSig list was consulted in generation of the metrics. The metrics have been finalised with help from local and international people. There are nine metrics, three each on Server Provider Readiness, Content & Services Availability, and Usage and Uptake.
There was a two phase plan. There has been assistance from NZRS and DNCL for a couple of the metrics. The Measurement Lab team is helping, as is APNIC with a widget. Snap and FX have offered to provide some percentage figures for traffic levels. Expect it all to be up and live by end of February. Every quarter there will be an analysis report to interpret the data for people.
With a lot of the data automated, in terms of overhead of keeping it going, what will be required? Estimated at $5000 a year. Could put out an RFI to organisations who may be able to maintain it. The critical issue is that we have the funding in hand for 2012/2013 or we signal it to InternetNZ before end of this financial year. 

Financials
We are in reasonably good shape but the reasons are that we took steps in second half of last year to manage the finances carefully and we have received substantial support for the IPv6 for Government event and been frugal in our expenses for that. Thank everyone for their support in helping the financial picture to this point. The money in the account will keep us going to middle of the year but may not necessarily be enough for the benchmarking to continue.

Practical IPv6 for Government
The Government event is in collaboration with the Department of Internal Affairs and InternetNZ. There are 125 registrations, of which 71 are paid. Over 60 are from Government or local government ICT departments. There is around $40,000 in sponsorship and also in-kind sponsorship for internet access on the day. 
It looks like DIA has done a good job in getting around the agencies and departments and getting them engaged. There was also a letter to Government CIOs called “Transition to IPv6 for Government Agencies” endorsing implementation of IPv6 and the event and setting an expectation for external services to be accessible and that internal networks use services and that reporting occur.
Well done to the team for putting the event together.

Technical Special Interest Group update
World IPv6 Launch Day. Last year there was World IPv6 Day and the debrief from that was about making the next day about turning on IPv6 forever. The large partners have chosen 6/6/12 as the day. There are some high powered participants and they’ve outlined their commitment on the World IPv6 Day website. We should be getting that message out to our members that there is a significant amount of backing and that this is a good day to aim for.
APNIC members meeting at end of this month in New Dehli. A lot of focus now on how large economies and organisations get the IPv6 space they need. They are not looking at 12-24 month timeframes, they are looking at 5-10 year timeframes. So pressure for APNIC to change to this. Dean has a proposal in to try to get consensus on these issues.
IPv4 black market – a broker was trying to sell blocks and it is useful to try to track how many of these are happening, so members please let Dean know.
NZNOG conference was in Christchurch in January. 140-150 people and over 40% came from Christchurch area. Number of IPv6 talks was small but there were a couple of interested talks about how IPv6 fits in your day-to-day networking. A good talk on securing IPv6 and another on what the state of the IPv6 global internet looks like – it goes to about as many core PoPs as IPv4. So a shift at NZNOG from evangelism to day-to-day networking.
Unallocated space at APNIC is in a quarantine block and each existing or new member is allowed one /22 – approx 1000 addresses. In terms of what is out with customers and may come back, that can also happen easily. The global problem is what happens when someone in region A gives out a significant portion that is needed in region B. Would hope it doesn’t become political. The focus is forward looking and IPv6 and in that space one economy did try to go to the UN about address allocation but if we can keep people communicating we hope commonsense will prevail.

Upcoming Events
As well as IPv6 for Government, we are looking at CIO Summit and NetHui. We’ll pursue CIO Summit and NetHui best options and for IPv6 Launch we suggest a breakfast on 6 June of industry leaders. In addition the concept of pre-events related to global IPv6 launch involving different sectors – e.g. content providers, integrators – getting their involvement prior.
You need to be IPv6 enabled before the day. Miwa Fujii is trying to get a regional IPv6 test flight organised before the day and she will be here for our Government event.
Reflecting on CIO Summit and NetHui last year, it is difficult to assess how well we did it. In terms of CIO Summit it would be good to know the IPv6 is an agenda items in next couple of years and that some of the suppliers would be keen to put IPv6 in the agenda. It would be good to get our members to get an IPv6 message into the events. For example, rather than us having an IPv6 stand. The other thing is to get onto the presentation programme.
NetHui is a totally different community – could be a place to do a status report, and looking at the consumer angle, but they shouldn’t just be considered consumers. There may be a GOVIS event with a June timing.
AP. A presence at NetHui to promote IPv6 state of nation, whether for their consumer or business activites.
AP. Try to get an integrated picture through exhibitors and programme at CIO Summit. 
AP. Have a breakfast event for IPv6 on World IPv6 Launch Day.
AP. Have some sort of sector-by-sector pre-events.

Task Force Future
There is a question mark over what we will do after July. When should the Task Force complete its work and what is the measure of that?
If we look at our original objectives – we want to ensure there is no market failure, that we’re aligned internationally, and can measure our progress. 
Our job could be considered to be to ensure that there is at least one player in each part of the market. E.g. training, web hosting, ISPs, national backhaul etc. So we can say we have a market place. DIA has now got IPv6 on its agenda. What is lacking is more on capability side. 
Part of ongoing activity is benchmarking and the survey work to ensure everything is moving in the right direction. Also need to see if any holes. One previously is around content provision and it may be the hole we need to focus on next. If we do set a target for the content sites to have it in their roadmap then we can possibly say our job is done in that sector. It may not happen when we want it but we don’t have authority to tell people what to do.
The Task Force’s future could be partly answered by the attendees of the Government event. That is the type of audience we should be asking.
A test is what would happen if the Task Force wound up. Would anyone notice?
The key message 18 months ago was the lack of knowledge of the scenarios. There is a much better informed market now thanks to the Task Force. If we pulled the pin today a fair chunk of the awareness activity is completed. 
The benchmarking can continue easily under InternetNZ’s auspices or an academic organisation. Doesn’t need the Task Force.
The main difference in removing the Task Force is that we would be winding up collaboration between the organisations that are members.
We are unlikely to see a dip in progress if the Task Force wound up, and it would be hard to know if there was a lessor gradient in the reported results.
Let’s look at this question of winding up the Task Force as a main agenda item for next meeting.
Alternatively it could be end of 2012 as a possible wind-up date. But what we need is the reason. It is easy to provide a reason to retain until July. An option could be to retain a lower profile group overseeing the benchmarking report and surveys.

Other business:
There are two more Govt websites launched, one being another DIA site and the other being MSI.

Next meeting: 12 March, 2012.
Meeting close: 3.50pm

Action Point Summary
Who | Action point | Meeting | Status
Donald | Find out level of interest in Computerworld for a special issue on IPv6. | 13 Feb | In Progress
Admin | A presence at NetHui to promote IPv6 state of nation, whether for their consumer or business activites. | 13 Feb |
Admin | Try to get an integrated picture through exhibitors and programme at CIO Summit. | 13 Feb |
Admin | Have a breakfast event for IPv6 on World IPv6 Launch Day. | 13 Feb |
Admin | Have some sort of sector-by-sector pre-events. | 13 Feb |
Secretariat | Determine which New Zealand IPv6 enabled ISPs / websites are not listed on the IPv6 Forum’s IPv6-enabled programme, and which are displaying the IPv6-enabled logo on their website. | 28 November |
Murray | Ask ALGIM whether they will continue with their IPv6 survey | 28 November |
Secretariat | Send Donald's phase one Govt report to all those interviewed, for feedback, noting it will be made public shortly | 28 November |
Dave | Put together thoughts on up the stack training requirements | 11 July | In progress
All | If you can help with contacts into Content organisations then let Murray know. | 18 Apr | In progress
Murray | Converse with InternetNZ re APNIC, APAC IPv6 TF meeting in New Zealand | 7 Mar | In progress
Murray | Approach Consumer, making them aware of IPv6 | 7 Mar | In progress
Richard/Murray | Advertise the procurement guidelines through media, IDC, DIA and ALGIM | 7 Mar | DIA & ALGIM done